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| A crop from the image for which opendna aka Jay McKinnon takes credit (see context in reproduction below). Posted on Photobucket and in comments attached to the Daily Kos blog post where the purported Obama birth certificate appears |
| Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider’s revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the diligent detective work of independent investigative journalists (led by JimJ and Texas Darling) and imaging professionals such as Polarik in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate The Daily Kos, a “progressive” blog site, and the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance. Moreover, the blog and the campaign have been negligent in allowing the promotion of obviously forged and fake official documents together with the purported image of Obama’s birth certificate.
ORIGINS OF THE SUSPECT IMAGE ON DAILY KOS The blog entry, posted by the site founder Kos (Markos Moulitsas), is presented as a response to a request by Jim Geraghty of the National Review Online, who had, three days before, called for the Obama campaign to release the candidate’s birth certificate:
So Kos aka Moulitsas goes out and gets one. One impressed commenter on the site asks Kos where he got it. He answers: But why would a presidential campaign that has its own “Fight the Smears” website rely on a radical left-wing blog like Daily Kos to post its official documents, especially one as sensitive and controversial as a birth certificate? A few days later the Obama site would post a very low resolution, barely legible image — it still is there on the site, with no reference to the one first posted at the Daily Kos. Yet the service of Daily Kos to the Obama campaign raises some questions: Who in the campaign would be authorized to release a personal document of Barack Obama’s birth certificate? Was it a paper document that they sent to Kos to scan, or did the Obama campaign scan the original and send it to Kos? If so, why not just post it on the Fight the Smears site? Or is there another possible source for the document? There is no documentation of the provenance of this image, from whom and why it was transmitted to Daily Kos, and in which format. None, that is, except for the say-so of Markos Moulitsas, who said he simply asked the Obama campaign for it. The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the “birth certificate” he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama “Fight the Smears” website was supposedly generated. Without a valid birth certificate, the primary record of US birth, Obama cannot prove that he fulfills the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President and throwing the race into turmoil. His presumed Kenyan-born father was foreign-born, and his mother was too young at the time of birth to confer natural born status by virtue of her American citizenship. Thus his citizenship comes down to proving he was born in the USA, and his campaign has staked its credibility on the authenticity of the Daily Kos-derived birth certificate image. (These aspects of the case are covered extensively in the previous article in this series.) WHO IS OPENDNA/JAY McKINNON? Jay McKinnon ask opendna, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called opendna.com and uses the opendna screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter. opendna posted on his Photobucket album two versions of a “Certification of Live Birth” document image, here and here. Both, as demonstrated in the respective blogs of analysts Polarik and JimJ, have a common visual signature (a dot that appears on all four images) with the images posted on the Daily Kos site image that the Obama campaign has endorsed as genuine on its “Fight the Smears” website and has distributed to news media as the “real” birth certificate of Barack Obama. The signature dot appears on that one, too, when magnified, albeit a bit … smeared. Here’s the same anomaly appears in Jay Mckinnon/opendna’s images (highlight added by JimJ: One image created and posted by opendna is what he describes as a “blank template” of a State of Hawaii Certification of Live Birth. Only two data fields are filled in: the ISLAND OF BIRTH (”Oahu”) and the HOUR OF BIRTH (7:24 PM). Neither of the images have a posted date stamp, but embedded EXIF information contains the time stamp of June 12 at 8:24am, the same day and time Daily Kos posted the purported Obama birth certificate. Both images lack two salient characteristics present in the Barack Obama birth certificate images claimed by the Daily Kos blog and Obama’s “Fight the Smears” site. The Field under CERTIFICATE NO is blank whereas on the purported “Obama birth certificate” that area is blacked out as if to conceal a real number. In addition, the two documents posted to the opendna account lack the reversed date (June 6, 2007) that appears at the bottom of the purported “Obama birth certificate.” However, the ISLAND OF BIRTH and the HOUR OF BIRTH is identical on the “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” and blank certificates as well as the purported “Obama birth certificate,” which also claims 7:24 pm as the HOUR OF BIRTH and Oahu as the ISLAND OF BIRTH. The odds of an identical time occurring by chance in two certificates is 1440 to 1. Either the former is derived from the latter, or the latter is derived from the former. If “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” were derivative of the purported “Obama birth certificate,” it would have meant that — in a matter of minutes on the morning of June 12, 2008, opendna would have had to tracelessly erase all fields (save ISLAND OF BIRTH and the HOUR OF BIRTH), and to painstakingly remove the blacked out area near CERTIFICATE NO and the reversed date that appears at the bottom of the purported “Obama birth certificate.” Given the complexity of the background pattern, it would have been difficult to do this without leaving behind traces of the extractions. For what motive would one want to do this? Given that this is an official state document, the risks of altering and tampering with it, or offering it for the express purpose of creating a forgery, or promoting it on a website, would seem to be rather high for fun and games. The second possibility is that the blank document preceded the purported Obama birth certificate, serving as a “master” for the other. Either one would find a “blank document” and fill it in, or one would scan or photograph an authentic document and then “clean it” to create a blank document that would be filled in with personal details and the necessary stamps and signatures. One might be inclined to leave in type for two rows for alignment purposes and to ensure that the font type and size are consistent. Later one would fill in the blank areas with the desired data and “authentic” markings. A FORGER’S SECRET CONFESSION ON THE DAILY KOS The significance of opendna’s forged birth certificate template can be discerned by looking more closely at the Daily Kos blog entry in which the purported Obama birth certificate first appears. Indeed, the document image was initially posted with a resolution of 1024 x 1000. Only later, after it was discovered that the document stamp and official signature were lacking from the document image, Kos replaced the image with the much higher resolution in which it is claimed that, after a series of complex image manipulation steps using special imaging software, a faint image of something the website claims is the missing seal appears. (Even if there is a seal, it’s not clear it’s a seal from an Obama birth certificate, and there is no visible registrar signature, which is also required for a certified document.) But it is impossible to make out with the naked eye, and the manipulation is illegible and useless for verification purposes. A possible answer for some of these anomalies is provided in banter between opendna and other commenters in the discussion thread of the blog post. At 12:41pm, a prior request for a “font expert” is answered by opendna: “How about a certified DHS [Department of Homeland Security] document expert?” And by 1:35pm opendna comes up with a suggestion: “Why don’t you just print one up for him? Here’s a blank template. And sure enough, there in the comments stream, he provides the “almost blank” Hawaii birth certificate image that appears on his Photobucket account, with just the information for the island and hour of birth. The next commenter is impressed: “why can’t Geraghty find this stuff? (but bloggers like you have it at thier fingertips? No wonder print media is in total collapse.” Now, as the time stamps would have it, opendna’s suggestion is out of synch, appearing 4-5 hours after the initial posting of the purported Obama birth certificate document. That doesn’t make much sense: Kos doesn’t need a birth certificate for Obama — one was already posted! So why would OpenDNA post this? What explains his suggestion that Kos “print one up” with a “blank template”? Is he just trying to be funny? Is he trying to impress the other commenters? For this did he go through the trouble of removing all the text and the reverse date-stamp? Or was the blank template “just lying around somewhere” on his computer or in some corner of the Internet, just happening to have the identical information as the purported Obama birth certificate? A hint may be found here (click the image to open one in higher resolution): “Corvo”, a very frequent commenter on Daily Kos, had written at 10 am: I’m sure that every forgery includes a note that essentially says “Hey! I’m a forgery!” At 01:27:12 PM PDT, some three hours later, under the subject “!!!” and without any further comment, OpenDNA posts a crop of his Haye I.B Ahphorgerie image. In other word, in response to Corvo’s comment, McKinnon makes a visual “joke” — “Hey,” the document is saying: “I be a forgery!” Remarkably, though, the Ahphorgerie crop appears seven minutes before opendna posts the “blank template” birth certificate image with the suggestion to “print one up” for Obama. So opendna was working on the image at that time. Of course, the almost-blank “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” birth certificate is not a particularly useful counterfeit but, as McKinnon suggests, it could be put to good use by “printing one up” using the “blank template.” It’s as if opendna couldn’t resist boasting, after the release of the “official” Obama version, of his own role: “Hey, I be a forgery!” It is certainly worthy of note that the “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” image and comments were subsequently excised from the discussion thread, something that could only have been done by a site administrator or Kos himself. However, the management failed to clean up in the site archive from where these images were pulled and, as of this writing, is still publicly accessible. The suppression of the comments indicates that one or more persons at Daily Kos were involved in the attempted cover-up. ON THE UNBEARABLE EASE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY None of this is not to imply that McKinnon himself forged the Obama document, with all the fields filled in with information about the presidential candidate but lacking the visible stamp and signature that alone would make it an authentic document. Nor is their proof positive about how the almost-blank “Oahu 7:24pm” document is related to the one endorsed by the Obama campaign that features those exact details. The presence on the Daily Kos blog of the admittedly forged almost-blank templates of the document, and the admission of forgery by opendna in that same blog entry, not to mention the technical signatures uncovered by Polarik and JimJ, should cause the Obama campaign to radically reassess its reliance on the image of the birth certificate published by the Daily Kos. If the website is the home for a self-admitted federally-trained document specialist, with examples of forgery posted concurrently with the image they claim as authentic, is that a venue appropriate for a presidential candidate to showcase the only available high resolution purported image of his vital records? If the birth certificate endorsed by his campaign turns out to be a fraud — and the overwhelming evidence assembled points to it being precisely that — what would that say about the credentials and judgment of the presidential candidate it purports to represent? Let alone his Constitutional eligibility to serve. Yet the Obama campaign, three weeks later, continues to run a derivative of the Daily Kos posts, and insists on its authenticity while refusing to submit any paper proof of birth for official or independent inspection, as if proof of Constitutional fitness to serve is of no consequence. In the summer of August 2006, blogging on the Daily Kos, opendna aka Jay McKinnon showed off his DHS-derived knowledge, discussing under the heading of “The Perfect ID Card” the ease of forging US documents, birth certificates in particular:
Jay McKinnon may not have had to go that far. In the course of my subsequent email exchange with McKinnon — more on that in the next article — he at last agreed to release the following statement: “I believe there is overwhelming evidence that Senator Obama is a natural born US Citizen, and I have no evidence to contradict that belief.” He did not relate to the veracity of the Obama birth certificate images. This is Part 4 of a series. Here’s where you can find Parts 1, 2, and 3. Other articles about Barack Obama and his mysterious background are linked on the upper left of this article. In Part 5 (coming soon!), more on the email exchange with Jay McKinnon, some hints from him about “Uncle Mark”, a referral to the “Canadian CIA,” and an attempt by him to downplay the importance of the purported online birth certificates, the authenticity of which he admits cannot be verified. |
Sunday, July 6, 2008...3:40 am
OBAMA’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a FAKE: Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims
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Sunday, July 6, 2008 at 6:57 pm
There are two separate issues regarding the Obama’s birth certificate. One is whether is a fake or a legitimate one. If it is a fake, and he was not born in the U.S. he is not qualified to be president, like Arnold, the governor of CA, who is originally from Austria, or the governor of Michigan, who was born in Canada.
The other issue is about questioning his citizenship because of his father being from Kenya or his mother not being old enough at the time of Obaman’s birth. The U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship to anybody being born in the U.S. The newborn’s parents may even be in the country ILLEGALLY. Unless there was any particular circumstance or state law that I am not aware of.
Monday, July 7, 2008 at 6:56 am
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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Can we pressure Congress to investigate the validity of his birth certificate and his internet fund raising activities that are in question?
Friday, July 11, 2008 at 6:48 am
Interesting that the birth certificate has a revised date on bottom left of 11/01. Perhaps, as of 1961, Hawaii had not revised their document since 1901?
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Has anyone thought to inquire which documents Mr. Hussein Obama could have used to obtain a U.S. passport? Could we keep him out of the country if he used fake documents? It’s my understanding that legitimate, non-faked I.D. is required. Or, did Mr. Obama proceed carefully by first, years ago, obtaining a driver’s license (any illegal alien can obtain a great looking fake driver license using great looking fake birth certificates)?
This matter should be placed into the very capable hands of qualified government investigators. If, in fact, the online birth certificate is a fake, there are penalties for forgeries and falsifying legal documents with the intent of defrauding the government or public — and even for aiding and abetting.
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Friday, December 5, 2008 at 7:38 pm
“Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery…”
“Relying on blogs for anything other than a down-the-rabbit-hole view of the world is like trying to forecast the weather by looking in your closet.” — The Unknown Blogger
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Haha you tard, none of that shit is true. You are just brainwashed by fox news. Rush, hannity and all the other idiots have brainwashed you.
Oh yea, your mother is a greasy fucking whore
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 2:06 pm
none of that shit is true…
because you said so?
and how would you know who’s mother is a greasy whore?
from experience while fucking your own mother?
since your mothers a greasy whore, did she give you discounts being your her son/daughter?
I mean, being you have this on your mind, and came out of nowhere, you obviously have experiences with a persons mother being a greasy whore.
since their mother is not your mother, your only experience with a mother logically could only be your own.
what kind of grease did your mother use?
bacon grease?
while your drumming up something, how about some credibility as to your statement that none of that shit is true?
are you that fucking retarded to think we would just believe a total stranger who comes here and says “that shit isn’t true” and say… hey, were now enlightened :D
if so, that would explain why you fucked your mother while she was greasy, however, whether or not she charged you a family discount, its disgusting in our eyes and had absolutely nothing to add to your credibility.
cheers fuck-o =0
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 2:15 pm
still nothing to say eh?
your such a tool. believe what your told to believe with out question.
the main question is, being it is such a questionable issue, why is oboi making such great attempts to NOT produce it, until the last minute and come up with a copy that is not officially used in the state of Hawaii until decades later? Which makes it even MORE questionable.
If your tin god is so pure in your eyes, why is he so afraid to come clean with such a little piece of paper to shut everyone up?
but… people like you are bred to not think, only do
ya hear the scoops are comin? ;-)
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Of course it’s true Kristy, you know it, I know it, and 66% of Americans know it… lol
Obots are slow…. They only believe MSMBC, and CNN….
But hey, here’s an MSMBC goodie noname… It’s right down your alley….
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Hannity, Rush, Fox News, Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, Lars Larsson, Laura Ingraham, Bill O’Rielly, etcetera…NONE of these people or outlets have uttered ONE WORD concerning the Illegal Alien in chief not being eligible, and not showing any ID, so No Name, you’re a liar and an idiot.
They’ve all been paid off or threatened, and every last one of them is a worthless piece of shit as far as I can see.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Fishleg said:
“They’ve all been paid off or threatened, and every last one of them is a worthless piece of shit as far as I can see.”
You may want to present some sort of evidence.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 7:41 pm
stophate,
I did, but it’s in moderation.
If Obambi decides to release it.
But I suspect that you won’t respond.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Hey, stophate is back from exile. How was the book? Didja get yours yet?
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 5:58 am
gayJimmy…one million bucks and Oboutme’s refusal is all the evidence a thinking person needs. I said..THINKING PERSON
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 6:03 am
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=1642
Well, well, well…. Whadda ya know… Fox finally talks about the Birth Certificate Issue.
Problem is… Are they now finally talking about it because the new fake one has been seasoned, or do they have a better plan in mind? Maybe that’s why Andy Martin is really in Hawaii filming a movie that nobody seems to be stopping? Since when would Obama just let anyone make a movie about him in a bad light ? Hmmm….
Plus….
1960’s Heidelberg printing press was sold on April 14th to someone…. Wonder who? ( Very Rare to find)
Not to mention…
You have Andy Martin saying Obama has a different daddy…. Then you have Fox finally reporting it, WND being able to ask questions, and suddenly, you have fox and Andy getting the glory for “finally” getting the truth to come out…. But alas, is it ‘really’ the truth? Of course not….. It doesn’t take this long to release records that should of already been released…
This administration is getting desperate…. They know we’re getting too close for comfort….
Final Obstacle – The excuse for releasing the long-form Birth Certificate.
by Defend your Freedom.
Take your pick. If Obama and his administration are creative enough, almost anything would “fly”. Remember, Obama doesn’t have to do much to trick a lot of people or get them to accept lame excuses (because of his unfettered media support and peoples’ inclinations to adopt cult mentality). The most likely excuse though, could be a different Father listed on the Vault copy. Andy Martin already claims Obama’s Father was really Frank Marshall Davis. Obama and his administration could simply type this into the long-form forgery and use it to back-up Andy Martin’s claim. Frank Marshall Davis is described as a Pedophile and staunch Communist activist of the 1960s, who was a a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. He was also a pioneer for the Civil Rights movement. Not that advocating for Civil Rights is bad, but being a member of Communist Party USA and authoring a book titled “Sex Rebel” (includes describing sex with underage girls AND boys), doesn’t bode well for what America has stood for in terms of the Constitution and morals. Obama obviously wants to replace the Constitution with the old Soviet model, but could use this as an indirect excuse for not gaining support at a time when he “inherited a mess”.
He could say “I was embarrassed as to who my real Father was. I did not want people associating me with him or sharing in the same beliefs”.
And, if he changed his Father’s name on the certificate (from what the short-form forgery shows), he could say that those people suggesting he is a British Subject at birth can not be true, because Barrack Obama wasn’t his real Father, as now indicated on the vault copy of his Birth Certificate.
By doing this, he would have to admit that the short-form was a forgery, but considering the circumstances, he took the risk for the reasons above.
It would make his supporters look bad too, in that they argued his short-form version on the Web was real, but Obama doesn’t care about the supporters, he cares about himself. If he can divert the criticism for this in one form or another, it would be to his advantage.
What about his other records? He doesn’t have to release those to be eligible and already has sanctions on them.
What about all the money he spent protecting his birth certificate? Well, those were mainly costs for the Sanctions and protecting of the other records, not for the Birth Certificate.
You see how easy all this would be to spin?
Oh, and for a Doctor’s signature? You could provide a fictious name or real name of someone who was actually a Doctor, but has since passed away. Afterall, the State of Hawaii could verify this without any investigation. They are in full compliance with the Obama administration. You couldn’t even see or interview Obama’s Grandma from Hawaii? What makes you think you’re going to find the Doctor? You wouldn’t for the reasons for the above reasons.
Isn’t it nice to have such Transparency in our Government finally?
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 6:15 am
Vicki…I believe the fake is ready……
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:25 am
Then Vicki he’s guilty of defrauding Americans knowingly still, and all those photos are faked too, he’s just one great big fraud and whatever he produces, proves he’s a criminal and should be handcuffed and hauled away just for that. He (aka Ayers) wrote in ‘his’ book that he found the original BC in a shoebox at grandma’s.
I’m sure they’ve weighed out the consequences of not being a natural born citizen because his father was Kenyan, about being discovered that he ’s not born in Hawaii, versus the rancor over disclosing that his father was FMD. There will be those who jump to his defense to cover the embarrassment, but still he’s guilty of FORGERY and FRAUD and that is impeachable.
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:37 am
I do too fish…
And anne, I agree with you, but with a corrupted system, who the heck is going to enforce the laws?
We all know he’s not a Natural Born Citizen and doesn’t/shouldn’t of even been able to run based on what we already know, but obviously, that mattered not…
I don’t know where I read this, but I read something awhile back about some type of agreement between the politicans ( for probably some corrupt reason) that “none” of them were to mention, say anything about, or even do much critical speaking about Obama for 6 months… I wish I could remember where I read that at… But it was some sort of gag order/agreement placed on them all..
Why 6 months, I have no idea, or what it means..
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Obambi,
Is there a reason why my comment didn’t post? I knew it would go in to moderation, because of multiple links, but I’m wondering why you didn’t release it?
Is there someting wrong with it?
Did you not get it?
Do I need to resubmit it?
Or if you deemed it to be not appropriate, what was wrong with it?
I understand and respect that this is your blog, I just would like to know why my comment wasn’t posted?
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I B
You would REALLY have to push the envelope for Obambi.com to deem something unworthy. More than likely if it is held in moderation it simply hasn’t been seen yet.
Just sayin….
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Yea Interested
we get thousands of porn and medical pills spam and we have strong filters on the posts.
Have no idea how Stophate gets through. lol
anyhow, we’ll check it out, it might be in the 1000++ spam per week comments and its hard to go through them
did it have over 25 links? that could be a def. reason.
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:06 pm
I understand Obambi and Fishleg.
If you need me to repost it, I saved it.
It has about 7 links in it.
I know you wouldn’t intentionally do something like that.
You guys are great!!!
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:14 pm
it might be faster if u repost it instead
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:30 pm
will do Obambi.
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Hey All,
The eligibility issue was brought to light in the White House Press Briefing on May 27th.
I have studied this issue since last September or so, and I have looked at evidence from both sides.
I have seen the factcheck pictures, and to be honest, the Certification of Live Birth is really just a diversion, in my opinion.
The facts the way I know them are this:
Obama could have as many as 4 “Original” birth Certificates filed with Hawaii.
This is the statute that was in effect when Obama was born:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0016.htm
If you look at the bottom of the statute, the first date is the year it was passed, and each subsequent amendment is the dates after that. As you can see, this statute was passed in 1949. The statute that most people site is one that wasn’t passed until 1982, saying that people had to prove one year of residency in Hawaii for a year.
I have seen reports that the State of Hawaii “Officials” have verified that the Certification of Live Birth and what it says. That is simply not true. What they have said is that they have verified that they have Obama’s original Birth Certificate on file:
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html
That’s it; no verification that what is on the COLB reflects what is on his original Birth Certificate. Don’t let the Headline of the story fool you, read the statement. It says that Hawaii has verified that they have the original on file. It doesn’t state that ANY information released by Obama has been verified.
First, the statute I referenced does not have a residency requirement, so the fact is that Stanley could have had Obama in Kenya, or Canada, or Kansas, or wherever, and as long as she could produce proof that she had residence in Hawaii for one day (a bill, or maybe even her student ID), that would be proof enough for the Hawaii Department of health.
So, Stanley could very well have had Obama in Canada, and then visited her friend in Seattle on her way to the University of Washington in the fall of 1961.
Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962
The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.
Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180
When would the “autumn” semester start? Maybe around September? The “Officials” in Hawaii don’t state WHEN the Birth Certificate was filed, only that it was. So in all reality, Stanley could have registered it when she went back to Hawaii and filed it “late” as the statute allows.
Stanley very well could have registered Obama’s “original” birth certificate in Hawaii, and then “altered” it to state that he was born in Hawaii. The “original” would then be sealed by statute, and the “altered” original placed in his file.
I have seen arguments to the effect that you had to be born to “parents” who are US citizens, and that this is evidence that Obama is not a “natural born” citizen. I have looked at the Constitution, and can not find where it says “parents”. However, I believe that this is something that the Supreme Court should rule on. It seems to me that when the Constitution was written, and it was written that you had to be a “natural born” citizen, or a citizen at the time of adoption of the Constitution, they weren’t saying that as long as you were born on US soil, you would be considered “natural born”. I would think that the founders meant born of two US citizens, or NOT holding duel citizenship at ANY time.
The next issue is when Stanley married Lolo. There is “prima fascia” evidence that Lolo adopted Obama, and changed his name to Barry Soetoro. Evidence of this is his enrollment in an Indonesian school, where it states that his name was Barry Soetoro, that he was an Indonesian Citizen, and that his religion was Islam:
http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-indonesian-registration.html
So IF Lolo adopted Obama, then again Stanley could have gone to the Department of Health and “altered” his Birth Certificate to reflect his name change. The first “altered” Birth Certificate would then be sealed, and the Birth Certificate with the name change would be placed in his file.
Then when Soetoro went back to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents, his name COULD have been changed back to “Barack Obama”, and his Birth Certificate “altered” again, and the Birth Certificate in his file would have been sealed, and the new “original” placed in his file.
In reality, Obama COULD have 4 Birth Certificates filed with the State of Hawaii.
As far as the announcements in the papers, it is not a far leap to believe that the Dunham’s called the papers and placed the announcement. I have heard the argument that the paper only takes the information supplied by the Department of Health, but that is the CURRENT policy, and is not what the policy was in 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
It has also been reported that the neighbor of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy who has lived there since before Obama was born stated that Obama never lived there:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=83851
Even IF Obama was born in Hawaii, it could be argued that Obama lost his citizenship when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. The United States allows “duel citizenship” only when the other country recognizes “duel citizenship”, and Indonesia DOES NOT. I have heard arguments that minor children can not renounce their citizenship, so even IF Lolo adopted Obama, some people argue that this did not affect his US citizenship. However, if Obama used an Indonesian Passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981, when he was an adult, then this is “prima fascia” evidence that Obama renounced his US citizenship at that time.
It would not be a large leap to believe that Obama used an Indonesian Passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981, simply because Pakistan was under martial law, and non Muslims were scrutinized harder than those traveling under a Muslim Passport. It has been reported that Obama traveled to Pakistan with a Pakistani Citizen AFTER visiting his mother in Indonesia for a month. The Pakistani could have advised Obama to use a Muslim Passport, to allow freer travel.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obamas-college.html
Why doesn’t anyone ever ask Obama about this trip, and who he traveled with, and what passport he used while traveling on this trip? Why didn’t Obama write about this trip in either of his books?
Then there is the issue of Obama receiving aid for college that was designated for foreign students. Again, this could be “prima fascia” evidence that Obama is not a “natural born” citizen.
So there are many more questions than answers.
Why won’t Obama release his “original”, original Birth Certificate? The State of Hawaii says they have it on file, and all Obama has to do is give them permission to release it.
Was Obama adopted by Lolo Soetoro, and if he was, does this change his citizenship from “natural born” to “naturalized” citizen?
What Passport did Obama use when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 when he was an ADULT?
Did Obama receive aid that was designated for foreign students at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard?
It seems to me to be a pretty easily proven issue. Obama is the one who pledged to be “transparent”, when he announced his candidacy for President.
Just release the document s Mr. President, and prove you are eligible to hold the Office you were elected too.
Or is this another case of:
“Just words”?
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Obambi,
I reposted, and it went to moderation again.
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Obambi,
Thanks for everything you do for us.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 8:11 am
Yeah. Thanks Obambi for everything you do for us. … and I mean EVERYTHING!
PS- Here’s a napkin, you have a little something on your chin.
Interested Bystander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Obambi,
Thanks for everything you do for us.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 1:19 pm
This actually helps explain it *sarcastic* ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbInI8w0RKc&feature=related
Saturday, June 27, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Looks like we could be getting alittle action thu the court system! Good post Obambi
http://goodtimepolitics.com/2009/06/27/judge-eligibility-dispute-is-serious-says-case-will-be-expedited-when-representation-lined-up/