Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.
In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.
Called “shared responsibility payments,” the fines would be set at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation. The goal is to nudge people to sign up for coverage when they are healthy, not wait until they get sick.
In 2008, employer-provided coverage averaged $12,680 a year for a family plan, and $4,704 for individual coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s annual survey. Senate aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the cost of the federal plan would be lower but declined to provide specifics.
The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines. The fines would be collected through the income tax system.
The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.
Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs.
In a statement, Obama welcomed the legislation, saying it “reflects many of the principles I’ve laid out, such as reforms that will prohibit insurance companies from refusing coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and the concept of insurance exchanges where individuals can find affordable coverage if they lose their jobs, move or get sick.”
The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.
Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said in a letter to colleagues that their revised plan would cost dramatically less than an earlier, incomplete proposal, and help show the way toward coverage for 97 percent of all Americans.
In a conference call with reporters, Dodd said the revised bill had brought “historic reform of health care” closer. He said the bill’s public option will bring coverage and benefit decisions driven “not by what generates the biggest profits, but by what works best for American families.”
The Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Thursday evening, put the net cost of the proposal at $597 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago. Coverage expansions worth $645 billion would be partly offset by savings of $48 billion, the estimate said.
However, the total cost of legislation will rise considerably once provisions are added to subsidize health insurance for the poor through Medicaid. Those additions, needed to ensure coverage for nearly all U.S. residents, are being handled by a separate panel, the Senate Finance Committee. Bipartisan talks on the Finance panel aim to hold the overall price tag to $1 trillion.
The Health Committee could complete its portion of the bill as soon as next week, and the presence of a government health insurance option virtually assures a party-line vote.
In the Senate, the Finance Committee version of the bill is unlikely to include a government-run insurance option. Bipartisan negotiations are centered on a proposal for a nonprofit insurance cooperative as a competitor to private companies.
Three committees are collaborating in the House on legislation expected to come to a vote by the end of July. That measure is certain to include a government-run insurance option.
At their heart, all the bills would require insurance companies to sell coverage to any applicant, without charging higher premiums for pre-existing medical conditions. The poor and some middle-class families would qualify for government subsidies to help with the cost of coverage. The government’s costs would be covered by a combination of higher taxes and cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending.









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Thursday, July 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm
The Ebay Saga continues!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Autographed-photo-of-Smith-and-Andylenny-abroad_W0QQitemZ160346224684QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item255561382c&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1240%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Description (revised)
Autographed photo of Smith and Andylenny, abroad. In airport.
So now eBay removes my listing for selling a picture? That doesn’t sound bizarre to anyone? And I read that people are finding information about Smith posted on the internet which supposedly discredits him? Smith is a scammer? Give me a break.
And now when we go to log into InspectorSmith’s Youtube account our password is not recognized. All this for a scam, huh, a good laugh?
Just the other day I noted that I was thankful for freerepublic. Reminds me of a bunch off lukewarm turncoats. Change your opinion every time that the wind blows in a different direction. Here’s another quote, “Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.” – Alexander Hamilton. And what, what will be your opinion tomorrow? You’ve now concluded that “O” was born in the USA? Or better yet, now you’ll be reporting my listing to eBay and demanding that it be pulled?
Make up your minds, have a little backbone.
Does everyone want to know a little more about “O”s bc?
A. Contains name of both the mother and the father.
B. Contains name of the physician that was present. Signed by this doctor.
C. Is an exact copy of the original 1961 Mombasa hospital birth certificate. Includes 2009 embossed seal of the hospital in Mombasa. Contains a 2009 signature from staff that issued this copy with embossed seal.
D. Contains right footprint (baby “O”).
E. Includes other signature as well.
I want to thank all of the eBay community for their support in my last six auctions. Thank you for taking the time to write to me (I still haven’t had time to answer everyone) and for your bids. I also want to thank everyone at WorldNetDaily for their continued coverage of my six previous auctions. I want to thank everyone that forwarded news of my auctions to others, digitally or by spoken word. I want to thank all the attorneys as well as paralegals (Denise) that have written to me. Lastly I would like to thank all military personnel that have written to me with their support, opinions and offers as hired guns.
There won’t be anymore eBay auctions for documents, stories or dissertations.
I’m happy to report that most (what I’d guess to be above 95%) of the mail that I have received was filled with support and praise for my efforts. Some of these notes also included concern for my safety and well being. Your mail was, is and will be appreciated.
I still plan to upload a video to Youtube, not sure which account or username. I have never uploaded anything. I mostly use Youtube to search for help, e.g., how to remove the battery (after it wont hold a charge for long) from the 1st generation iPhone or how to lay an English bond brick wall. So this will be the first time that I’ve ever uploaded anything. So you’ll get your document yet, up close and personal.
I still plan on talking with WorldNetDaily. I will disclose everything to them.
A quick note to Jerome Corsi, I read that you were very skeptical of my story and any document that I might have. I want to first say that I hold you in high esteem, I have great respect for you. You’re not just a talker but, a doer as well. While many have talked of O’s birth, you actually went abroad to get something tangible. Congrats. However………….., just because you couldn’t pull it off doesn’t mean that I wasn’t able to. Your ground plan and course of action were doomed from the beginning. First, you made your intentions known from the onset. You were going to go to Africa, get to the bottom of things, and bring back some kind of proof. Second, you made a declaration of your intentions every step of the way. That’s like planning to rob a bank, in say, Los Angeles. Then calling all the banks in LA and stating, “Hey, I coming to rob you. I’ll be there at 12 noon sharp.” Then on the way to one of the banks you stop at a parked police cruiser and ask, “Hey police man, I’m on my way to rob the bank on Flowers Street, can you give me directions on how to get to the bank?”
Back to my story now. I want to make clear that this whole endeavor to obtain information on O’s birth was a three man job (more accurately 2 men and 1 lady). Andylenny. Smith. Dawnella Wilson.
Smith and Andylenny are do the credit for actually getting their hands on the proof. Dawnella Wilson is due credit for financing the whole undertaking.
The photo in this listing is up for auction. On the left is Smith and on the right is Andylenny. This photo will be signed by Smith, as Smith. This will be the only autographed photo put up for auction. One auction, one winning bidder, one photo. No more. There wont be duplicate photos or other photos for auction later. (Though I might try a relist if eBay kicks this auction off before enough people have had the chance to see this photo.)
You are welcome to copy and paste, or save, the digital photo in this listing. This auction is not so much for $$$ gain. It’s meant to give a face or two to the O proof story. If anyone comes forward with our O proof other than one of the two faces that you see in this auction then you’ll know that it wasn’t the proof offered in our five previous auctions. Also this picture will vouch for the credibility of the soon coming Youtube video. If you don’t see one of the two faces that you see in this auction then you’ll know that it’s not our Youtube video.
For the record I want to state that this auction is for an autographed photo of Smith and Andylenny. Signed by Smith, as Smith. You are not bidding on anything other than that, there will be no accompanying documents. There will be no meeting at the Iowa Capitol Building. This is not an attempt to circumvent eBay policies.
In closing I’d like to add two notes. First. I received many eBay messages informing me of the $25 million dollars reward that is advertized at http://www.rewardforobamasbirthcertificate.com. Many eBayers were puzzled as to why I hadn’t seized the opportunity to take this offer. I will explain now. This reward is only available to President Obama if he himself will come forward with his real bc. Thus far the President has not taken them up on their offer.
Second. I’d like to add a quote by a well known past democratic US President. It reads: “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” Theodore Roosevelt.
This photo will be shipped USPS Priority Mail. It will be shipped free of charge (domestic addresses) to the winning bidder.
International bidders are welcome. International shipping will be a flat fee of $30.
Happy Bidding!
Thursday, July 2, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Ebay seller identity exposed.
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/colmadonaranja-revealed.html
Thursday, July 2, 2009 at 8:31 pm
@Troy I had seen that b4… I don’t care who he is as long as he does have the dang BC…we’ll see I guess…
Thursday, July 2, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Scammers are gonna try to prey on people who are just trying to get the truth. It’s like a game to them. It would be stupid to try to sell the authentic BC on ebay to begin with. It has to be done clandestine to the proper people who are involved. No one should know about until it’s a bonefide deal with a reputable MSM, if we can still find one. It has to be a surprise. Shock and awe. I would just consider following the people who have already invested time and money into the situation to get any real information. Even sincere blogs get caught up in the rumors. A lot of people were taken in with the ‘Whitey’ tape that was allegedly from MicHelle Obama. It turned out to be a ruse too. I have a feeling though when this BC does appear, the authentic one, Obama will disappear and go into exile in some African nation to avoid prosecution. I’m still hopeful it will happen during his first term. The lesson is though, don’t be too quick to believe some of the bullshit going around on the internet.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 1:19 am
Im not so sure obastard will hide once the real BC is out and public.
I think they will most likely usher out fire hoses and jet spray everyone with kool aid as fast as they can to try and say how it’s wrong and “racist” of Americans to dare want it to remain constitutional that the President is naturally BORN in the USA and demand the people want that to be changed just so obatard can come out looking like the piece of shit he already is, oh, I mean, like the tin god to the libterds
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 1:46 am
wow, obastard modeling change in cuban fashion…
http://www.reason.com/UserFiles/Image/mmoynihan/apt_cuba.jpg
yes, this is actually in cuba… feel good libterds, this is the change your glorious tin fucken god is using as his role model!
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 3:57 am
I am with Frosteetoes on this one…in this case I will believe it when I see it…our best bet at getting to the heart of what is BHO/Lucifer is through his school records…and through his passport records…you get that you get him on a platter…all trussed up like a turkey on Thanksgiving!
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:13 am
On topic now…that is just what we need a requirement to purchase health insurance like we do car insurance….who is the dunce that came up with that idea? That is about the dumbest idea yet! Then fining people when they do not carry insurance…I see only abuse and trouble ahead if this hair brained scheme is done this way…What SR22 if you have more than one medical issue every three years. This is bullwhacky…my prediction…insurance companies getting richer and more powerful…while we get substandard medical care…I say the tort reform is the best way to bring down healthcare costs…most specifically…reform the rules so that lawyers cannot get a golden parachute and get rich (like Edwards). We should make it less profitable to sue; we should have caps in place…you do that and you will see that lawyers will modify their behavior and not encourage frivilous law suits. That is the one thing that we could do to bring down costs and it would be immediate results!
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:37 am
How about this… tax free flexible health spending accounts…you contribute 1000-1500 (even more if they choose) dollars per year into an account for the family; some of the funds could even be used to invest in the stockmarket (only safe stuff none of that highly speculative crap and no derivitives at all)…do that and when the family has a medical cost they simply pay from that account…put rules in place stating that it is for medical related expenses only. Start doing this when you are young and by the time your older a nice nest egg will have been accrued (sp). Treat it like you would a college fund for yourself or children…you could even have it withheld from your pay check…and it is a personal account just for you and your family members. Now I know that there would be some exceptions…like the lazy no goods who would not work tasting pies in a pie factory…so what happens to them….take their income tax checks (that they did not earn anyway) and put into an account for this purpose…allow the partially disabled to work without much penalty so that they can contribute to their accounts…for the profoundly disabled continue medicad and medicare for them…
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:46 am
Or we could let the government kill everyone off when they reach the age of 50 (before disease sets in)…control who gets to born and who does not…we could require that every pregnancy be aborted if the baby is determined to be defective. The government gets to pick and choose who is allowed to breed, if it is determined that you have genetic disqualifier to bad no babies for you…you are made sterile…if you are jobless and have no means of support…then you are made sterile…The government tells you what you can eat, how to eat it, and when to eat…they could implant a device that is monitored to make sure you are doing your daily exercise and make sure that you are using illegal drugs or drinking excessivly. Sounds far fetched…think again.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:46 am
Oh I forgot…you get sick before the age of 50…you are terminated!
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 5:26 am
There is no Health care Crisis that the media and the prick USURPER is putting out. The reason Heath care so much is the following: Illegals are going to the emergency rooms have no insurance but because of the asshole lawmakers forced hospitals not to turn anyone away. There are young people who believe they would not need insurance because they are young and not sick. Self employeed also do not pay for health insurance but believe they should get free health care. What the hell happen to this country where no one is responsible for themselves? The reason for immigration is control the borders so stuff like this does not happen. Marxist believe that everyone should have the same. This country was not founded on Government assistance (which sucks) but everyone would be responsible for self reliance and working hard to achieve their goals with out interferance. Stop the mass of illegals crossing the border cut out all assistance to non american citizens and you will find that health care cost will be driven down. also there are people who are to cheap to get insurance when their company offers it not wanting to pay and when they do get sick go to the hospital and give phony names and addresses so they dont have to pay. If anyone believes that the government is going to give them better health care take a look at Medicare, Medicade, Social Security and our Veterans. Our veterans should get the best care that money can buy. The only ones who get the best health care are the Politicians. Kennedy should of been left to parish and not get the treatment that he is. This asshole is trying to change our healthcare. Look at most of the Politicians trying to tell us that we need to exercise more and cut down on our fatty foods. How many fat ass politicians do we see?
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 5:34 am
I agree ttrishstar, there really is no a healthcare crisis in this country….it is more of a responisibility crisis…our representatives are charged with responsibility for securing our borders, our national security, regulating our currancy, and upholding the constitution…so far they are four for four in failure…and the dupes and rubes like stooptohate cannot see what we all are losing by continuing to worship/defend their false idol BHO/Lucifer.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 6:11 am
Exactly JC, and ttrish,
It’s all such bullcrap that this Government thinks it’s God, and can dictate to people how they are to take care of their own bodies, or live their own lives. Who the hell are these people in office making up laws that will do nothing but hurt the public, determine who is worthy of health care, or control them without even a voice of rejection being heard?
This is all outrageous, and people are getting more, and more frustrated by the day… It’s building up like a pipe under pressure, ready to explode..
Fines for “not” choosing their communistic bullshit healthcare? Threats of being arrested if you reject to inject toxins into your body? Indefinite detetion to those who are listed as terrorists? ( which include most anyone who cares about anything but American Idol) No trial, no warrants, and no say so? We have Internet 2, that completely takes away our freedom of speech attached with it a 2 year sentence to those who abuse it, or go against it’s power?
Excuse my tone, but “WTF” Is happening to our great Country? The Orchestrated bullshit that is occuring in our Government is nothing more than a way to keep the public controlled, and in fear 24/7.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 6:18 am
There you have said it FEAR…that is what they really want from us is FEAR…satan’s ultimate goal and his weapon of choice…A FEARful people are easily subdued…just ask any radcial muslim or “mainstream democrat/progressive”. Marx and Alinsky knew all too well that if you instill fear you have control.
The best way to combat fear is to become fearless in what you believe and how you live…and to do that you obey God’s laws…simple really.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 10:14 am
ttrishstar
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 5:26 am
There is no Health care Crisis that the media and the prick USURPER is putting out. The reason Heath care so much is the following: Illegals are going to the emergency rooms have no insurance but because of the asshole lawmakers forced hospitals not to turn anyone away. There are young people who believe they would not need insurance because they are young and not sick. Self employeed also do not pay for health insurance but believe they should get free health care.
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I agree with most of what you’ve written, but please refrain from putting all people in the same class.
We have been self employed for nearly a decade, and many years ago we started a high deductible health plan. We pay out of pocket for all the annual preventative care, and we invest money in our own bodies with healthy supplements. The result? We don’t run to a doctor every time we get a sniffle or hang nail. Matter of fact, with the exception of a couple of sprained ankles, we haven’t been to a doctor in 10 yrs. for illness related issues.
If everyone took the same responsibility for their health as they do their cable bills or cell phones, we’d eliminate a huge amount of waste and fraud in our health care system.
This self employed person does NOT believe I should get free health care.
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 10:16 am
P.S. And to the government morons who want to take over my personal choices and freedoms, please get the fu*k out of my life!!!!
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I did not mean to offend some for being self employeed. I heard people call in to talk shows and complain they are self employeed and did not have health insurance. I believe that we are responsible for own self beings and should not depend on others to support us. I apologize if I had offended anyone.
Saturday, July 4, 2009 at 3:15 pm
ttrishstar – thank you, and no offense taken. In our horror of what is happening in our country, too often we tend to lump people in a single philosophy or belief.
It’s good for all of us to remember that, and support those of us who are proud Americans and accept personal responsibility for our own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Monday, July 6, 2009 at 6:10 am
Obamunist social engineering through an unconstitutional tax code.
Bob A.
Monday, July 6, 2009 at 6:18 am
Bob A.
No doubt. What I am going to find amusing should this health care bs get passed..is that the folks so used to getting their large “income tax check” in the mail… is that when the government start keeping that check in order to pay for their health care coverage…I will love that…I want to see the look on the faces of all the blood suckers who refuse to work…yet get those huge “income tax checks” of 3-4 thousand dollars…they are gonna mess their pants when they figure out they have been duped by their god/idol BHO/Lucifer.