Liberals attack!

A supporter of health care reform, left, who did not want to give her name, pushes forward to rip a sign out of Kris McLay’s hands outside the Stout Street Clintic visited by Nancy Pelosi. (THE DENVER POST | RJ SANGOSTI)

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  1. JC

    I am reminded of the old adage…”those who do not learn from history repeat it”

    August 05, 2009
    Obama: A Modern Day Roman Plebeian Tyrant
    By Frank S. Rosenbloom, M.D.

    Many comparisons have been made between the Roman Empire and the United States. The Roman Empire was the most powerful civilization on Earth. Similarly, the United States, for now, is the sole remaining superpower. However, with the good comes the bad and the decline and fall of the Roman Empire has been compared to the decline and pending fall of the United States. We often forget the fact that the Roman Empire was preceded for 450 years by the Roman Republic, which arose in 509 B.C. with the overthrow of the Roman monarchy.

    Of course, there’s an interesting correlation with the American Revolution, which also overthrew government by monarchy. Rome was structured around a strong constitution, though little of it was written down. The early years of the Republic were marked by political power held by a strong aristocracy descended from earlier royalty. In a series of events very similar to developments in our own country, the republic devolved into rule by a series of popularly elected political elites who circumvented the constitution for political purposes.

    The Roman constitution was a powerful code designed with a complex system of checks and balances and served as a model for our own Constitution. The purpose was not to establish a simple democracy, but a representative form of government, which was, by the rule of law, resistant to the whims of the majority. But, as the society “advanced,” professional politicians began promising rewards in exchange for votes.

    Initially, two consuls, or highest magistrates, were elected for one year terms. The main legislative body, the Senate, (the model for our own Senate), was comprised of Patricians, members of society with ancestry derived from royalty. The Plebeian Council was composed of elected officials (tribunes) of lower societal rank who met in tribal councils. Over time, through a series of popular reforms, decisions made by the Plebeian Council would have the full force of law. Plebeians soon began occupying the Senate in a movement to bring “change” to the system of government.

    Around 200 B.C. there was an economic crisis, similar to the one we are experiencing today. The plebeians, especially farmers, found themselves unable to afford their homes and they demanded a bailout from the government. When the Senate refused, an uprising occurred, resulting in increased power for the popularly elected Plebeian Council. The country was then essentially controlled by new Plebeian political elites who were, however, mostly concerned with their own power and not about the problems of the people who elected them.

    As common Plebeians fell further into debt, unemployment rose and farmers could no longer sell their produce, resulting in widespread bankruptcy. People began voting for politicians who promised bailouts. Populist leaders emerged who promised “change.” The final decades of the Roman Republic saw an eerily familiar increase in the dependence of the average Roman citizen on their government, along with tax increases to pay for government programs. The Republic had slowly devolved into a democracy wherein people voted themselves benefits they had not earned. Sound familiar?

    In 133 B.C., Tiberius Gracchus was elected as a Tribune. In a move that would be considered “Obamanesqe,” he attempted to “spread the wealth” by proposing a law that would have limited the amount of land any particular individual could own and redistributing land to the poor. He was later murdered but his brother was elected and continued to support populist policies that circumvented the constitution. A new political party, the democratic “Populare” party, gained power. They regularly broke the law in the name of democracy. In a final attempt to reestablish constitutional rule and strengthen the Senate, Lucius Sulla, a member of the conservative “Optimate” party, took control as dictator, passed laws to strengthen the constitution and the Senate and then resigned.

    Another populist movement (like Acorn) arose in about 65 B.C. to address the problems of the poor. When they were unable to pass all of their reforms legally they began using illegal methods. Eventually, Julius Caesar, a “Populare” politician, was installed as perpetual dictator in 44 B.C., influenced by his greatness as a general and his distribution of benefits, like food subsidies to the population and free land to his former soldiers. He began appointing officials some today would call “czars” (named today after Russian Czars, a word derived originally from the word Caesar) that would not have to be approved by the legislature, but his tenure was cut short by assassination. After Mark Antony was defeated by Octavian at the Battle of Actium in 31 B.C., the Senate gave Octavian extra-constitutional powers in 27 B.C., effectively terminating the Roman Republic forever.

    The summary above is a short synopsis, not a complete history. However, the parallels are unnerving and we can easily see the chilling similarities.

    Aristotle warned: “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” The Federalist papers show us that the founding fathers understood this all too well. Just as the Roman Senate became more “democratic”, so to our own Senate changed from being indirectly elected to direct popular election in 1913. We were founded as a republic partly because democracies become weaker as they grow whereas republics can become stronger.

    Yet we elect populists, like Chairman Obama, whose unaffordable promises and unconstitutional actions, after the manner of Tiberius Gracchus, Caesar, and Octavian, will be recorded in history as the beginning of the end of our republic. We slip further into a “democracy” of dependence on government and control by it. Inevitably, we too will degenerate into despotism and tyranny. This has already begun. From antiquity through the present, great thinkers like Aristotle and our founding fathers have warned us of the dangers of repeating the mistakes of prior civilizations. Those who survive us will learn how the selfish majority, at the behest of power hungry political elitists, accepted subjugation in exchange for benefits and thereby sowed the seeds (or acorns) of our destruction.

    Barack Obama: Plebeian politician to Senator to Dictator wannabe. The USA: republic, to democratic dictatorship and then despotism. It not only can happen, but it will, unless we learn from history and prevent its repetition.

    Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obama_a_modern_day_roman_plebe.html at August 07, 2009 – 03:07:11 PM EDT

  2. good post,JC. hope they listen.
    i am reminded of a song called to beat the devil,another johnny cash song that says
    if you waste your time talking to the people who dont listen to the things that you are saying who do you thinks gonna care,and if you should die explaining that the things that they complain about are things they could be changing, who do you thinks gonna hear.
    most common sense can be found in music. had to quit the band thing when i quit drinking,cause i couldnt stand drunks hanging all over me during breaks. do miss the music.
    hope the libterds calm down soon,i really dont wanna go to jail for what im gonna do if they get close.

  3. kristy

    JC really knows their stuff inside out. All I can say is we are defiantly blessed to have someone like JC in our corner!

    I’m a bit of a history buff myself but JC pointed out many things I have over looked, in which I wish to thank JC for.

    However Herbert, we are equally blessed to have someone as you in our corner as well. Your one heck of a good God fearing “TRUE” red blooded American Patriot to the letter. This is undeniable and remains such!

    We have many here who we are blessed to have in our corner actually.

    Although this is some of the darkest times, and darker soon to come, one thing is at least, it has pulled people like us together, and that is the main battle the satanic communists hate. they wish to divide us, cause out foundation to shake from within. Which is why so many trollish cock suckers keep coming with nothing to say but cut and pasting “I heard your mom…” statements.

    True Classic Patriotic America: “UNITED WE STAND; DIVIDED WE FALL!”

    Well, we’re standing, and standing proud and strong, and no satanic commie fuck tard can ever change that!

    God Bless our true Patriots in America fighting the fight for Christ who blessed and ordained America!

  4. kristy,and everyone else here., i am the lucky one here. i have found REAL people here on this site,and even the editor. i am the blessed one.

  5. kristy

    the web master here, Obambi.com rocks, hes the best :)

    I am not afraid to say, sometimes I wonder why he doesn’t ban me for my excessive language with the trolls though LMFAO

  6. stophate

    Cheese Wheel,
    He doesn’t ban you because there are only about 4 people that post here.

  7. kristy

    hey everyone look at me, I’m pulling a stophate!!!

    *inserting the copy and past…

    stophate just said: “Cheese Wheel,
    He doesn’t ban you because there are only about 4 people that post here.”

    then stophate the little pork rind fucker said…

    stophate said in other post”: Be careful, you might just get what you are asking for. Treat others as you wish them to treat you.”

    you just used a double negative dipshit. learn how to fucking ridicule LMFAO

    go back under the sheets sucking your daddies dick so he can cum in your mouth porkie. you and papa got pork rinds ta rub down on each other =0

  8. damn! i was gonna attack the fag,but i see you got him cornered,you go girl! truth rules!!!
    im outta here.

  9. kristy

    stophate does serve some good uses…

    sometimes its not good to wipe the dog shit off your feet on a nice new doormat.

    So we got porkie aka stophate to save the doormats! :D

    thanks deuce aka porkie aka daddies little dick sucker aka stophate :)

  10. Stophate, “He doesn’t ban you because there are only about 4 people that post here.”

    LOL

    oh man, make that 5 with you , right?

    if you only knew.

    thousands of lurkers, it’s ok they just want to read, not discuss.

  11. obambi.com, funny you should bring that one up.
    brudolf@ t will not give out the rest of his address,but he is one of several people i know who visit here, and will not say anything,they are content to just check us out. kinda bashfull? i dont know,but there are a lot of people who dont blog.

  12. JC

    Yes I have several friends who come here and read and learn…they feel they cannot articulate well enough to post…but I remind them daily…silence is not golden…it will make a slave of you.

  13. thousandssss of lurkers per day

  14. that is right,and i have been advertising.

  15. Romeisburning...

    JC – FANTASTIC post!!

  16. stophate

    herbert stamper said:
    “hope the libterds calm down soon, i really dont wanna go to jail for what im gonna do if they get close.”

    What are you going to do ? Hit them with your cane Herbie ? The Republthugs are practically asking for violence. Which side do you think has more to lose ?

  17. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    When will stophate understand that his comments make no sense.

    Which side is it that is getting arrested?

  18. well lets see stopfake,you wanted to know where i was, i told you where i am about 11 oclock a lot of evenings,told you i would be happy to meet with you,and i didnt make threats,i simply said if these trouble makers start shit,i will,definatly go to jail. you are a blow hard,and a stupid one at that.
    what is so hard about patriotism,and liberty for people like you to understand? i am just curious. i never could figure out why people can become traitors to their fellow citizens and the country.

  19. JC

    This idea and phone number was just sent to me by Citizen Ron.

    1-800-211-0907

    The above 800 number is being paid for by AARP. When you call it a robot voice will ask you to enter your zip code and then select the congressman you want to speak with. It then automatically dials the number for you. A person will be there waiting to get your opinion for the Congressman about how you feel about Obamacare.

    Now AARP set this up to give Congressmen a “yes” opinion about Obamacare but it can not stop you from giving a “NO” opinion.

    And that is the beauty of the plan. Thank you Ron….AARP has given us the ability, at no cost to ourselves, to reach a Congressman and give an opinion about OBAMACARE…..

    Naturally when I tried it ( works) I told the pollster that I was against Obamacare because it would eliminate Health Care benefits for Senior Citizens. My opinion was duly recorded for the Congressman.

    What an elegant and fun way to stick it to the traitor AARP and vote against
    ObamaCare at the same time…………..

    Tony Passaro
    Bel Air Tea Party Coalition.

  20. editor, I JUST SENT YOU AN EMAIL CONTAINING THE POSTER THAT WILL BE ON THE WALLS OF EVERY BIKE SHOP IN SOUTH FL,FROM TAMPA TO MIAMI,AND HOPE SOME WAY I CAN GET THEM ALL ACCROSS AMERICA.,sorry about cap lock.
    if you like,you can post,and hopefully i can afford to ride for a few days to distribute them,and will be talking to someone who may want to sponser the effort with gas ,as my business has fallen to nothing. God bless all of you,and even though i am a rough walkin and talkin oldworkhorse,i believe God brought me back from the jaws of death for a reason.this may be it.

  21. Herbert, we’re posting it here.

    thanks for sharing!

    ————
    ————

    I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU THERE ARE THAT KEEP UP WITH THE SOCIALISTIC TAKEOVER THAT IS COMMING,OR HOW THE GOVERNMENT IS STARTING TO RESEMBLE IRANIAN LEADERS,ATTACKING YOUR OPINIONS,AND CALLING YOU OUT,OR EVEN IF YOU CARE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE FEED YOU SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE,ANOTHER CROOKED PART OF MEDICAID, ONLY AT HYPERSPEED ON STEROIDS.
    BUT IF YOU SEE WHAT I SEE,THAT THE COUNTRY IS COVERED WITH THE GRAVES OF BETTER MEN THAN I, WHO HAVE FOUGHT,AND DIED FOR US TO HAVE LIBERTY,AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS,AND NOW THEY ARE SILENT. NO,NOT REALLY,NOT IF YOU LISTEN WITH YOUR HEART,AND DEEP INSIDE YOU HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT OF PATRIOTISM AS I. THEIR SILENCE IS DEAFENING TO ME,AND KEEPS ME AWAKE SOMETIMES.
    I FEAR FOR YOU,MY FELLOW AMERICANS AND BROTHERS ON WHEELS. I FEAR FOR MY GRANDSON,ONLY A FEW MONTHS OLD,AND BY THE TIME HE IS OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE,THERE WILL BE NO VOTING ALLOWED.

    ON THE 12 TH DAY OF SEPT. THERE IS A MARCH ON WASHINGTON PLANNED. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ONLINE FROM SEVERAL SITES. IN APRIL,AT THE ALAMO,25000 PATRIOTIC CITIZENS SHOWED UP. TED NUGENT WAS THERE,AND IN ATLANTA,SEATTLE,AND ALL ACCROSS THE LAND PEOPLE WERE SHOUTING NO MORE! THE RESPONCE WAS FROM BARACK HUSSEIN, (A FEW PEOPLE WAVING TEABAGS AROUND).
    BY SEPTEMBER I HOPE TO GET AT LEAST FIVE THOUSAND BIKES TOGETHER TO RIDE ON WASHINGTON,AND DECLARE TO THE NATION THAT WE WILL NOT BE STEPPED UPON. THE TYRANNY HAS TO END BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

    I AM LEAVING ON THE TENTH,AND HOPE TO MEET UP WITH YOU AT DIFFERENT STOPS ALONG THE WAY,THE STOPS WILL BE GOTTEN TO YOU IF YOU EMAIL ME,IT MAY TAKE A DAY OR SO,BUT I WILL BE THERE FOR MY COUNTRY,AND WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP ALL WHO REALLY CARE,MAKE HISTORY.

    THANK YOU .
    HERBERT STAMPER

    the administration has a hangmans noose around the neck of lady liberty,and it is our right,and our duty to see that she survives.

  22. JC

    “ONE MAY NOT RELY ON A MIRACLE”

    Talmud

    I would like to take this opportunity to speak directly to everyone here at obambi, to those who post but especially to those who merely read here.

    Please be mindful that with the “health care” fight raging at townhalls across this nation that silence is not golden in this instance…you must find your voice and you must do it sooner than later! In reality this is not a fight about “health care” it is a fight about “medical care”. There is nothing in this bill that addresses “health”!

    You cannot sit back and rely on a miracle to stop the destruction of the best medical care system on earth. ( I do realize that it is not without issues).

    Why would we even consider junking a system that that is the envy of the world? Do we have room for improvement…certainly…does that improvement mean that the only option is to discard it to begin anew in doubt and uncertainty?

    Should we “remake” our medical care system into something unrecognizible? What the Obamacare plan is proposing is the “remaking” of a system that they find inequitable. As with all things in life nothing can be made or remade to make life more equitable. There will always be inequities as long as there are humans upon the face of this earth.

    The rich will always be able to afford better access to medical care…as having money does not necessarily translate into better care only better access…this bill as it stand right now does nothing to address better access to medical care. If our congress were serious about addressing better access to medical care they would not be charging ahead with the false flag of “health care”, they would be discussing ways to facilitate better access to medical care.

    While I do not have all the answers to the issues at hand, I do know that tort reform is a good place to start…bringing down medical costs by placing restrictions on bogus medical malpractice suits would go a long way to curbing costs. Lifting restrictions on interstate purchase of medical insurance would allow the free market to work at its best. Making and enforcing laws that would punish insurance companies for denying coverage based on pre-exsisting conditions is the only one of many other good ideas.

    Entitlement programs do not work…for proof of that just look at Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Head Start (that program has done nothing to alleviate poverty), Medicare part D (prescription drug) these and a host of other “social engineering programs” have beset us with nothing but sub-standard services and out of control spending causing huge budget deficits. The tax payer is straddled with a bill that they will never be able to repay at the rate our government is spending.

    So ask yourself this one question…Do you really think sitting around waiting for a miracle is a good idea? God tells us that “He will help those who help themselves”. So please I beseech you if you want to facilitate a miracle go out there and help yourselves recieve one by stopping Obamacare…call your reps…visit townhalls, and if they choose to pass this bill…it will not be because we did not make ourselves heard!!!

  23. there is a cost for your silence,you should listen to patriots who care,like JC.
    the cost may mean your life or that of your loved ones.

  24. stophate

    ROFL,
    The Conservitards have set the tone for this debate. When you spew hate and lies and do not want to be involved in any “serious” discussion you will get not get what you want. Get prepared for the shock of your lives. The nation voted for a Democrat President, Congress and Senate and we will get to make the polices. We appreciate all the help though. Keep wasting all your time playing hate games. We will take care of the details.

  25. do not know about the rest of you, but i do not even want to waste my time on answer to this stupidity,because in a few months, the democraps will lose most of their corrupt low life asses in the elections. what will the socialist leader do?

  26. stophate

    Yeah Herbie,
    Keep doing nothing and hope for the best. Do you think Democrat reps are going to do squat for a bunch of Conservitard rednecks because you shouted them down ? You and your friends screwed the pooch. You don’t have a majority and you have done everything you can to show you won’t deal with the opposition. Call your local conservative state party headquarters and ask them how many young people are joining the party. They aren’t.

  27. kristy

    how do you know we are not younger?

    you wouldnt, no differant then you know if Im a chick or a dude under a chicks nick, if Im White, black, hispanic, latino, latina, semitic, asian or what?

    you don’t have a clue and you know it. this is why you cling your lips so hard wrapped around your daddies cock, holding on like a wet piece of spaghetti.

    you have proven you are nothing but full of assumptions and nothing more porkie. your not only a sheep, but wayward from your flock.

    and not even your icon avatar you got now of the statue of Liberty engulfed in flames from an obvious explosion from contempt and hatred for the USA will save you.

  28. Kristy, does it surprise you that our youth are this stupid,being from public run school system? i am not,because i think this little punk is barely smart enough to remove the postsites before his daddy finds out what he has been doing,
    he says something about doing nothing,but i have been working on political recruitment tools that no one except my brother knows about,and the other thing you and live oak,sea dog,and the rest of the ones with a brain know about. i have been lucky in a way, that i have no work at present time i am too busy to worry about customers landscapes.
    as for the boys comment on young people,i can say that there are a lot of them that are learning from parents,and they even know who samuel adams was. so that makes the boy child fag look even dumber than before.

  29. JC

    herbert,

    There will be severly restricted elections in 2010 and 2012…BHO/Lucifer will deny large portions of the country/populations the vote. We are headed for an uncivil domestic war…the government is going to declare martial law, when the people rebel against the crap that is being pushed down our throats. The government will use this as an excuse to either not hold elections in some areas, or severly restrict them in all areas, or a mix of both of these. It is coming and we all know it.

    This probability concerns us…but the moronic BHO/Lucifer worshipping masses (progressives) are gleeful at the thought of silencing opposition (us), with a whatever the/it cost/takes mentality. But what the BHO/Lucifer loving crowd does not want to recognize, let alone contemplate, that they too will be in the trenches right along with us..but instead of fighting BHO/Lucifer…they will continue to fight us…thinking all the while that their support for BHO/Lucifer will save them. They will be marked for destruction the same as those who are voicing opposition. When that happens they will die wondering why BHO/Lucifer is not saving them.

    When this happens even those who support this evil will be unable to deny what has happened.

    But they will not care because the euphoric utopia that they are wrapping themselves in will sustain them. And they will not care, after all, the opposition has been (will continue to be) demonized and labled terrorist…thereby making them less human in someway. This happened under GWB and it will happen again…only this time it is their god/idol BHO/Lucifer who is/will be doing this and that will make it all okay…cause after all he has told them it is okay.

  30. Common Hypnotism

    LOL.

    Hater, the “combat vet”…lol…”nco”, says Keep wasting all your time playing hate games. We will take care of the details.

    ROFLAMO.

    We….lol…who’s that, you and the mouse in your pocket?

    Regardless of how anything plays out, you have nothing to do with it, hater. You are simply an insignificant little gay man, making your 5 bucks an hour for posting marxist propoganda on blogs, and trying to find the hairy-sacked love of your life.

    You can post “we will take care of” all you want, but in reality you are an insignificant little bitch with an insignificant little job and an insignificant little life who tries to identify with a bunch of people who could care less if you live or die.

    You don’t matter, “combat vet”.

  31. we outnumber them and numbers are growing every day. we are close to defaulting on loans from foreign countrys,and geitner is trying to get congress to raise debt ceiling,so we can borrow more to pay payment on loans. what happens when this out of controll spending goes on a little longer.is that eventually we will not be able to pay,we will be forced to default,and foreign intrests will own controll (partially,) , and we will have one new world order,which means we will be secondary citizens here in our own land,and the land and laws will be taken,and the nationalized police will be watching you take a bath. people who are so stupid that they cannot see the train comming are gonna cry,and i will not feel sorry for these hypnobamatized zombies.

  32. Common Hypnotism

    LOL. My God, are you pathetic. You are like the weak minded sports fans that paint their faces and crow “WE did it. WE won. WE kicked their ass. All WE need is a better quarterback”.

    You are SUCH a pussy.

  33. stophate

    JC said:
    “There will be severly restricted elections in 2010 and 2012”

    Yeah, the restriction will be NOT enough Conservitards to win because they wasted their time on non-issues and conspiracy theories and lost their base. I am looking forward to 2010. The conservative base is shrinking and all that will left soon is the wing nuts. God Bless Our Democratic Republic.

  34. kristy

    just like the communist demoshits waste their and the peoples time with subjects like…. the “n” word and trying to stop using the word “socialism” being coined with the term democrat…

    yes, the demoshit communists are actually working on this.

    and fighting for a word that actually does classify them, but spending that much time to stop a word isn’t a waste of time.

    you dick sucking hypocrite, go back to sucking your pop’s dick until he squirts his load down your throat.

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